demiurgent: (Writer)
demiurgent ([personal profile] demiurgent) wrote2006-05-22 01:15 pm

Then and now.

Thirteen years ago, I could cheerfully write any Superguy story I wanted, asserting the most banal bullshit and getting things wrong gleefully with a toss of my head and saying (in my best Ed Wood, Jr. voice) no one's going to pay attention to the little details.

Today, I work on a super hero story and have to stop and think oh shit. I have a throwaway sentence about close up magic. Now I have to buy and read seven books -- including books by Bill Severn and Penn & Teller.

I'm not sure I've gained anything.

[identity profile] chanlemur.livejournal.com 2006-05-22 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
On the upside, just think of all the interesting things you'll learn if you make the mistake of including a throwaway sentence about an engrossing topic with a fifty-year scholarly history attached to it.

'Course, you might never make it back to your manuscript, but hey.
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[personal profile] scarfman 2006-05-22 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)

There's an advantage to writing in a genre which has a fifteen-hundred-year history of redactor errors.

[identity profile] z-gryphon.livejournal.com 2006-05-22 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure I've gained anything.

I'm pretty sure you haven't.

I've been going through much the same sort of thing lately - in fact, I've been finding it more or less paralyzing. It's most bothersome.

[identity profile] ericmonster.livejournal.com 2006-05-22 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's an idea: Unreliable Narrator.

Just give your narrator permission to get the throwaway sentences wrong. Unless your narrator is a master of close-up magic who refuses to simplify the topic for his clueless audience, in which case, get readin'.

[identity profile] tem2.livejournal.com 2006-05-22 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what's nice about throwaway sentences. They can be thrown away! Problem solved.
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[personal profile] wednesday 2006-05-22 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, of course you gained something.

YOU GAINED SEVEN BOOKS.

[identity profile] chadu.livejournal.com 2006-05-22 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I war with this impulse myself.

My suggestion:
* You get one book for a throwaway sentence like that. Tops. (Better off with a bit of Google-Fu or Wikipedia-Fu.)
* You get one to three books for a minor plot or characterization point.
* You get five books for a moderate plot or character point.
* You MUST read five-plus books if it's a major plot or character point.

cu


CU

[identity profile] fadethecat.livejournal.com 2006-05-22 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I once spent an entire day researching North American climate, flora, and wildlife as typically seen in a month's span at a particular geographic region of the country.

For the scenery in a single event of the story.

For an unnamed city in a very vaguely specified location.

For fanfic.

I also have about three books on blacksmithing and pottery-making sitting on my shelf due to a character in another story (who was, I might note, a demigod, and thus could have rightfully glossed right over the practicalities of these arts). I have not yet reached your level of commitment, but by golly, I'm heading that way.

[identity profile] cadhla.livejournal.com 2006-05-29 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Heya!

So, like, I've been told that you're looking for me, and have hence been looking for you. If you see this today, before end of con, I'm the blonde in the 'I am a pretty pink princess, motherfucker' shirt.

Ta!

superguy

(Anonymous) 2006-07-14 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
did you used to write the superguy series? Do you know about Andy Awesome??? I recently found it on the net and I'd love some info... Thanks